Re: Meetings ( perl sig )

From: "John van V(dot)" <john_van_v(at)yahoo(dot)com>
To: Sapphire Software <jewish(at)wynn(dot)com>, john(at)thinman(dot)com
Cc: dha(at)panix(dot)com, ny(at)lists(dot)pm(dot)org, Bruce Ingalls <bingalls(at)panix(dot)com>, Open Hardware <openhardware-request(at)openhardware(dot)org>, "spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org" <spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Meetings ( perl sig )
Date: 1999-11-14 15:18:15
Message-ID: 19991114151815.23487.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com
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Your welcome, but I get the sense the you have doubts.

No problem there, I agree, I have doubts myself.

But on the other hand, no risk, no gain.

What I have found recently is that both linux and perl have a long way to go.
Frankly I think the estimates of installed linux bases, and actively used perl
5 systems are a little high.

And perl has not exerted itself as an applications development language.

Lincoln Stein, for one, expressed doubt that perl is scalable because of
difficulty in development management. But, think about it, perl is the best
language for solving those kinds of problems. Java does that well too, but @
twice the cost. Oddly, I think java has a place on the desktop, it is just
that Sun screwed up really badly because of bad decisions. Perl is impervious
to those kinds of problems, it just evolves.

Think about that for a minute. It ~is~ a natural system that solves problems
based on need !! Just like mother nature. I love to pull things apart and
reconstruct them. Cars in particular.

After years of busting knuckles and aimless wanderings for parts, I started to
wish the systems were fully modular. This is why I love the
http://www.trinux.org concept. It is so minimal that the constraints required
a whole new approach to an OS. To fit perl into the picture would require a
newly lightened frame work and you would have to load modules very carefully to
keep from overloading the system especially at boot time.

Hence my new interest in microperl (punyperl, perlos, etc) and the other
lightweight interpreters such as lisp.

That is also the basis of my car concept, the AnyCar(.pm) Basically a cross
between a dune buggy and a 1/4 drag racer; it can be assembled for fwd, rwd,
mid engine, electric, 2, 4, or 6 person, fwd and rwd, because it is fully
modular. The only problem is getting a fiberglass body to cover the thing. I
specified the interior as an optional jacuzzi :)

I have been communicating w/ MIPS to start looking at the possibility of a perl
os mother board running on their very cheap VR5000.

--- Sapphire Software <jewish(at)wynn(dot)com> wrote:
>
>
> Thank You
>
> ...I think.
>
> >
> >
> > My efforts to get you guys to dress like tux the penguin and and dringk and
> > fight for perl in the government got the sympathies of the NYSIA board.
> >
> > What I mean is that they will underwrite the perl technical meetings.
> >
> > I'll get the details on Monday but this solves a lot of logistical problems
> and
> > sticks perl right in the face of industry, at least in NY.
> >
> > YEAH!!!
> >
> > LXNY has been talking about creating a bill to require government agencies
> to
> > look at linux and perl (and python and scheme, I suppose) before the more
> > costly stuff.
> >
> > Dave, I think you would make a great drunk in a tux :)
> >
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