Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

From: MJ Ray <mjr(at)phonecoop(dot)coop>
To: spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Subject: Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17
Date: 2008-12-19 17:14:24
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Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > I recall a motion that said we should discuss on private (I could be off
> > my rocker) but the thing is... the *only* people that can do anything
> > about what you are arguing is contributing members. E.g; they are the
> > ones that can vote. So -general may consider this noise.

Well, members are auto-subscribed to -private, while everyone on
-general is here by choice. Also, while discussions about potential
associations happen in -private, this is now an actual association so
can be public in -general. Finally, it arise from the meeting log,
which was posted here. So this list is fine - how about responding to
the point made?

> > > > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 10:13 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > > > For other kinds of resolutions there are of course other isomorphic
> > > > > problems. That is why THE MEMBERSHIP MUST BE GIVEN THE CHANCE TO
> > > > > COMMENT!
> Any thoughts on that?

Personally, I've already stated my position: I'd like to see members
given the support they need to fulfil their responsibility to oversee
SPI. I've offered to help a few times (most recently the website, but
that seems to be taking a long time to arrange a meeting to discuss
possible action and so on and so forth), but I also think not enough
members want me to take more action to support democratic member
participation because I wasn't elected when I ran for the board and
included that in my platform. Also in my platform, I included
suggestions like semi-automated scheduled notice emails, but none of
those who were elected have seen fit to steal those ideas.

So, the members re-elected these improving-but-off-target board
members in preference to me (and in preference to Ian too in 2007), so
maybe the membership in general don't want chances to comment? If
that's not true, a member could propose reminding the board of the
need for notice, or even dismissing some offending board member(s) and
see if it gets N seconds.

Hope that explains,
MJ Ray (slef)
Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small
worker cooperative
(Notice tel:+44-844-4437-237

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