Issue #18: Access to spi-private mailing list archives unclear or impossible

From: Philippe Cloutier <chealer(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Subject: Issue #18: Access to spi-private mailing list archives unclear or impossible
Date: 2025-07-26 04:11:53
Message-ID: 4eece081-1a0f-477e-8f86-c7daf1ee6e03@gmail.com
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The behavior has changed, presumably following the modernization of SPI
mailing lists. Trying to access archives now brings to an Authentication
page which contains:

> The site you are about to log into is run by pgarchives_private. If
> you choose to proceed with this authentication, your name and email
> address will be shared with /pgarchives_private/.
>
> Please confirm that you consent to this sharing.
>
> Consent to sharing data with pgarchives_private Consent to sharing
> this data

Activating the "Proceed with login" button yields:

> You are not currently subscribed to any mailing list on this server.
> Account not created.

Since access now seems impossible, I am retitling this report to "Access
to spi-private mailing list archives unclear or impossible".

On 2021-04-15 16:32, Philippe Cloutier wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Le 2021-04-10 à 20:12, Michael Schultheiss a écrit :
>> Philippe Cloutier wrote:
>>> SPI's website allows (visibly) to consult the archives of the spi-private
>>> mailing list, viahttp://lists.spi-inc.org/private/spi-private/
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, this requires authentication using an unspecified password. I
>>> for one am currently unable to access the archives as a result (I do not
>>> remember ever managing to access).
>> All mailman lists have user level passwords. If you don't recall your
>> spi-private password, you can enter your email in the final box on
>> http://lists.spi-inc.org/listinfo/spi-private and click [Unscubscibe or
>> edit options] and get a password reminder from the next page.
>
>
> Thank you, I managed to access the archives thanks to the "password
> reminder". I also understood what happened. I had never set a password
> for spi-private. The password was determined by Mailman, and indicated
> to me in the mail which I received on subscription.
>
> That subscription mail (and therefore my password) has been in my
> mailbox for 4 years. In my opinion, this might constitutes a security
> issue; anyone who would gain access to the mailbox of an spi-private
> subscriber who did not delete their subscription message would gain
> access to the full history of spi-private.
>
>
> That being said, to go back to the original problem, the paragraph
> "(/The subscribers list is only available to the list
> administrator./)" which starts the Spi-private Subscribers section in
> http://lists.spi-inc.org/listinfo/spi-private seems to suggest the
> whole section is irrelevant for most subscribers.
>
> I recommend the following:
>
> 1. Indicate in http://lists.spi-inc.org/private/spi-private/ that all
> subscribers have a password, and that it can be sent as a reminder.
> 2. Clarify the Spi-private Subscribers section by:
> 1. Moving the paragraph about unsubscribing first.
> 2. Merging the first 2 paragraphs (the parenthesis can be merged
> into the "Enter your admin address and password to visit the
> subscribers list" paragraph.)
> 3. Fixing the "Unsubscribe or edit options" button's label so it
> covers all its functions.
>
> --
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>
> Philippe Cloutier
> http://www.philippecloutier.com

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