Re: Issue #20: A priori moderation on mailing lists delays message availability

From: Philippe Cloutier <chealer(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Subject: Re: Issue #20: A priori moderation on mailing lists delays message availability
Date: 2021-08-22 13:37:02
Message-ID: a8c58777-20ea-aa10-f2a1-155702709cab@gmail.com
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Greetings,
The forwarded mail was eventually cleared:
http://lists.spi-inc.org/pipermail/spi-general/2021-April/004147.html

Unfortunately, the issue persists and remains serious. For example, I
sent a mail titled "Issue #21: White slashes in page path generally
invisible (no contrast)" to spi-general on 2021-07-15, which was queued
for the reason "Message body is too big", and it is still stuck more
than a month later.

Until a proper solution is implemented, I recommend to increase the
criteria to trigger a priori moderation and/or add moderation manpower.
I am available to help with the latter, and willing to do so on a
volunteer basis.

Le 2021-05-08 à 17:20, Philippe Cloutier a écrit :
>
> Some of SPI's mailing lists (at least spi-general and spi-private)
> impose a priori moderation in certain circumstances. A mail sent to
> "Too many recipients" can trigger such moderation queues. The
> forwarded message is an example of a message which was directed to
> such a queue. That message's content shows 4 more messages which
> presumably suffered the same fate.
>
> It appears that no matter how one subscribed, these mails will not be
> relayed until they have been approved. And unfortunately, unless I am
> missing something, there is also no way to access mails in queues via
> the web interfaces. Unfortunately, this has an important impact on
> communication efficiency, as processing delays visibly exceed 1 month
> in certain cases (the forwarded message is still queued as I write
> these lines).
>
> While a proper solution should be implemented, increasing the criteria
> to trigger a priori moderation and/or adding moderation manpower would
> mitigate. I volunteer to help with the latter for spi-general.
>
> -------- Message transféré --------
> Sujet : Re: Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable
> Date : Fri, 2 Apr 2021 10:39:58 -0400
> De : Philippe Cloutier <chealer(at)gmail(dot)com>
> Pour : Michael Schultheiss <schultmc(at)spi-inc(dot)org>, Martin Michlmayr
> <tbm(at)cyrius(dot)com>, spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org,
> sysadmin(at)rt(dot)spi-inc(dot)org, webmaster(at)spi-inc(dot)org
> Copie à : spi-private(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org, board(at)spi-inc(dot)org,
> schultmc(at)debian(dot)org, sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net, sfrost(at)spi-inc(dot)org
>
>
>
> Le 2021-03-29 à 10:01, Michael Schultheiss a écrit :
>> Martin Michlmayr wrote:
>>> * Philippe Cloutier<chealer(at)gmail(dot)com> [2021-03-27 13:11]:
>>>> I am sorry to inform you that the spi-general mailing list has visibly been
>>>> unreachable, for at least 40 hours. I personally sent a mail to
>>> I noticed the same problem recently and opened a ticket but so
>>> received no reply.
>>>
>>> I'm worried thatboard(at)spi-inc(dot)org doesn't work since it's (IIRC) also
>>> a mailing list; copying Stephen and Michael directly.
>> This should now be resolved - apologies for the delay in responding due
>> to issues with the list software.
>
> Thank you very much Michael. Thanks also to Martin Michlmayr, and to
> Robert Brockway for acknowledging reception of my report.
>
> Although it is clear that Michael's actions have helped, I am
> unfortunately under the impression that this issue is not fully fixed
> yet. From the replies which reached me, I can't explain why the
> following still don't show on spi-general's archives:
>
> 1. Michael Schultheiss's 2021-03-29 9:52 "Re: [SYSADM #4825]
> AutoReply: Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable"
> 2. Michael Schultheiss's 2021-03-29 9:58 "Re: [SYSADM #4825]
> AutoReply: Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable"
> 3. Michael Schultheiss's 2021-03-29 10:01 "Re: Issue #17: spi-general
> mailing list unreachable", to which this mail replies
> 4. Robert Brockway's 2021-03-31 03:45 "Re: Issue #17: spi-general
> mailing list unreachable"
>
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