Re: Debian on Causes (Facebook and MySpace)

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From: Ean Schuessler <ean(at)brainfood(dot)com>
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Subject: Debian on Causes (Facebook and MySpace)
Date: 2008-12-02 17:17:27
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I just created a "Cause" for Debian on Facebook and MySpace. I think we should do this for all of the SPI projects.

If you are on Facebook or MySpace, please join it and spread it!

Some of you are probably saying "Eeee gads! Not accursed proprietary social networks!". Some of us have friends who aren't die-hard computer nerds and, yes, there is a world beyond Advogato. Now shut up and go make your less nerdy friends give money to Debian.

Oh, I gave $50 to Debian too.

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From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Ean Schuessler <ean(at)brainfood(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: Debian on Causes (Facebook and MySpace)
Date: 2008-12-02 17:19:47
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On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 11:17 -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> I just created a "Cause" for Debian on Facebook and MySpace. I think we should do this for all of the SPI projects.
>
> If you are on Facebook or MySpace, please join it and spread it!
>
> Some of you are probably saying "Eeee gads! Not accursed proprietary social networks!". Some of us have friends who aren't die-hard computer nerds and, yes, there is a world beyond Advogato. Now shut up and go make your less nerdy friends give money to Debian.

It is this type of thinking that causes Ubuntu to be so prevalent. Good
work.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

P.S. I am (unfortunately) on Facebook. I will *not* join MySpace. I am
also on linkedin :P

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From: MJ Ray <mjr(at)phonecoop(dot)coop>
To: spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org, debian-project(at)lists(dot)debian(dot)org
Subject: Re: Debian on Causes (Facebook and MySpace)
Date: 2008-12-02 22:45:55
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Ean Schuessler <ean(at)brainfood(dot)com> wrote:
> Some of you are probably saying "Eeee gads! Not accursed proprietary social networks!". Some of us have friends who aren't die-hard computer nerds and, yes, there is a world beyond Advogato. Now shut up and go make your less nerdy friends give money to Debian.

No, I'm saying "use it if you want, but please try to keep external
backups of all the supporter details and don't create much
facebook-only content because facebook *do* delete people's accounts
in an automated, arbitrary and self-contradicting way, so supporting
them (as opposed to mining them) is not in the public interest."

Hope that helps,
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From: "Dara Adib" <daradib(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Subject: Re: Debian on Causes (Facebook and MySpace)
Date: 2008-12-02 23:22:44
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MJ Ray <mjr(at)phonecoop(dot)coop> wrote:
> No, I'm saying "use it if you want, but please try to keep external
> backups of all the supporter details and don't create much
> facebook-only content because facebook *do* delete people's accounts
> in an automated, arbitrary and self-contradicting way, so supporting
> them (as opposed to mining them) is not in the public interest."

Well said! I like the idea of "mining" vs. supporting and endorsing.


From: Ben Finney <bignose+hates-spam(at)benfinney(dot)id(dot)au>
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Subject: Re: Debian on Causes (Facebook and MySpace)
Date: 2008-12-03 01:41:40
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MJ Ray <mjr(at)phonecoop(dot)coop> writes:

> Ean Schuessler <ean(at)brainfood(dot)com> wrote:
> > Some of you are probably saying "Eeee gads! Not accursed
> > proprietary social networks!". Some of us have friends who aren't
> > die-hard computer nerds and, yes, there is a world beyond
> > Advogato. Now shut up and go make your less nerdy friends give
> > money to Debian.
>
> No, I'm saying "use it if you want, but please try to keep external
> backups of all the supporter details and don't create much
> facebook-only content because facebook *do* delete people's accounts
> in an automated, arbitrary and self-contradicting way, so supporting
> them (as opposed to mining them) is not in the public interest."

Indeed, well said.

I also have difficulty following the OP correlating a walled-garden
one-way private club with “wider world”, or even with “less nerdy
friends”.

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