Re: Debian UK trademark - draft resolution 2005-08-25.iwj.1

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From: Ian Jackson <ijackson(at)chiark(dot)greenend(dot)org(dot)uk>
To: board(at)spi-inc(dot)org, spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org,
Cc: leader(at)debian(dot)org, Philip Hands <phil(at)hands(dot)com>, Steve McIntyre <steve(at)einval(dot)com>
Subject: Debian UK trademark - draft resolution 2005-08-25.iwj.1
Date: 2005-08-25 19:33:31
Message-ID: 17166.7435.899167.664731@chiark.greenend.org.uk
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For the next Board meeting, or for email voting if Phil wants it
sooner.

WHEREAS

1. Philip Hands has asked on behalf of the Debian UK Society
(home page http://wiki.earth.li/DebianUKSociety) for a licence for
their use of the Debian trademark;

2. The Debian Project Leader has indicated support for the Debian UK
Society and its activities specifically including taking donations;

3. The Debian UK Society appears to be a good and worthwhile thing;

THE SPI BOARD RESOLVES THAT

4. A trademark licence is hereby granted: we permit Debian UK and
its officers and members to carry on the business of Debian UK as
currently practiced and as reasonably expected to carry on in the
future, and as may be explictly permitted or implicitly approved of
by the Debian Project Leadership;

5. This licence may be revoked at any time, notwithstanding the fact
that the SPI Board does not currently foresee any desire to do so.

6. In case of any doubt about the interpretation of this licence, the
opinion of the Debian Project Leadership will be decisive.

7. References to the Debian Project Leadership refer to decisions
made or Delegated by the Debian Project Leader, or decisions
Overruling the Leader, all according to the Debian Constitution,
or by their relevant successors in any amended Constitution.

Ian.


From: Philip Hands <phil(at)hands(dot)com>
To: Ian Jackson <ijackson(at)chiark(dot)greenend(dot)org(dot)uk>
Cc: board(at)spi-inc(dot)org, leader(at)debian(dot)org, spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org, Steve McIntyre <steve(at)einval(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Debian UK trademark - draft resolution 2005-08-25.iwj.1
Date: 2005-08-26 08:57:47
Message-ID: 430ED98B.2090203@hands.com
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Ian Jackson wrote:
> For the next Board meeting, or for email voting if Phil wants it
> sooner.

The only need for urgency is that we are in the throws of trying to set up
the bank account.

We can either wait until you make your decision before setting up an
account containing the D word, or we could go ahead with the paperwork on
the understanding that we'll not actually make use of it until your
decision, and that if it is decided that Debian-UK should not be allowed to
use the mark, we'll discard the account.

If you can vote via email in short order, fair enough, but I think I'd
rather have a decision that has had all its Ts crossed, and Is dotted, on
the basis that a certain person will use any deviation from established
practice as an excuse for screaming bloody murder on every list in the project.

Since the people who will be signatories on the bank account are all going
to be physically present at Steve's barbecue tomorrow:

http://wiki.earth.li/DebianParty2005

we were planning on doing the paperwork then. I think we can safely
continue with that (on the basis that I can always shred it) but I'll hold
off actually sending anything to the bank until I either get full approval,
or at least until I get the definite impression that there is conditional
approval of doing the account setup in advance of a full decision.

Cheers, Phil.

P.S. Thanks for that Ian :-)


From: Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader <leader(at)debian(dot)org>
To: Philip Hands <phil(at)hands(dot)com>
Cc: board(at)spi-inc(dot)org, spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org, Ian Jackson <ijackson(at)chiark(dot)greenend(dot)org(dot)uk>, Steve McIntyre <steve(at)einval(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Debian UK trademark - draft resolution 2005-08-25.iwj.1
Date: 2005-08-29 16:35:40
Message-ID: 20050829163540.GD11719@redwald.deadbeast.net
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On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 09:57:47AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> The only need for urgency is that we are in the throws of trying to set
> up the bank account.
[...]
> If you can vote via email in short order, fair enough, but I think I'd
> rather have a decision that has had all its Ts crossed, and Is dotted, on
> the basis that a certain person will use any deviation from established
> practice as an excuse for screaming bloody murder on every list in the
> project.
[...]

Hi Phil,

Please let me know if my earlier mail[1] is sufficient, or not, for the
purpose of getting things set up with your bank.

[1] Message-ID: <20050829161624(dot)GA11719(at)redwald(dot)deadbeast(dot)net>

--
G. Branden Robinson
Debian Project Leader
leader(at)debian(dot)org
http://people.debian.org/~branden/


From: Philip Hands <phil(at)hands(dot)com>
To: Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader <leader(at)debian(dot)org>
Cc: board(at)spi-inc(dot)org, spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org, Ian Jackson <ijackson(at)chiark(dot)greenend(dot)org(dot)uk>, Steve McIntyre <steve(at)einval(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Debian UK trademark - draft resolution 2005-08-25.iwj.1
Date: 2005-08-29 21:07:05
Message-ID: 431378F9.7000802@hands.com
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Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> Please let me know if my earlier mail[1] is sufficient, or not, for the
> purpose of getting things set up with your bank.
>
> [1] Message-ID: <20050829161624(dot)GA11719(at)redwald(dot)deadbeast(dot)net>

Yes, thanks, that's great.

That's enough to allow us to proceed with setting up the bank account,
which will take at least a week or two, while providing any objectors the
chance to expose their arguments to the light of day.

Cheers, Phil.