Re: FYI, re `BCS OS Licence'

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From: Ian Jackson <ian(at)davenant(dot)greenend(dot)org(dot)uk>
To: spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Subject: FYI, re `BCS OS Licence'
Date: 2007-07-11 09:57:29
Message-ID: 18068.43401.460441.639219@davenant.relativity.greenend.org.uk
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Quoting http://ossg.bcs.org/2007/07/24/:

The Open Source Specialist Group (OSSG) will be holding an interactive
event on Tuesday 24th July 2007 over a proposal to create a British
Computer Society (BCS) Open Source Licence.

Obviously this is a very bad idea. To make the point against stupid
licence proliferation it would be good to make an example of whatever
bunch of idiots proposed it.

I think the best response would be to have someone attend the meeting
and read out statements in opposition from Debian, the FSF, and OSI.
(An SPI resolution would take too long but we could get a statement
from the SPI board chair perhaps.)

A Debian Developer would be a natural choice and would have good
standing to informally expand (on their on behalf) on such statements.
Would anyone like to volunteer ? Please email me at the address
above. When we have a volunteer I'll contact the FSF and OSI (I've
already BCC'd leader@ on this mail).

Thanks,
Ian.


From: MJ Ray <mjr(at)phonecoop(dot)coop>
To: fsfe-uk(at)gnu(dot)org, debian-legal(at)lists(dot)debian(dot)org, spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org, ian(at)davenant(dot)greenend(dot)org(dot)uk
Subject: Re: FYI, re `BCS OS Licence'
Date: 2007-07-11 12:00:28
Message-ID: 4694c65c.wZgRVDu87qv4yeJa%mjr@phonecoop.coop
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[Added FSFE-UK to CC]

Ian Jackson <ian(at)davenant(dot)greenend(dot)org(dot)uk> wrote:
> Quoting http://ossg.bcs.org/2007/07/24/:
[...]
> Obviously this is a very bad idea. [...]
> A Debian Developer would be a natural choice and would have good
> standing to informally expand (on their on behalf) on such statements.
> Would anyone like to volunteer ? [...]

I'm up for reading statements from whoever and backing them up either
personally or formally. I looked at UK-specific licences while on the
AFFS.org.uk committee and (although I don't have my notes here) I
remember finding very few licences and none of them had a compelling
reason for existing. Maybe current AFFS people can find a copy of my
UkLaw notes file on the AFFS server?

Licence soup is one of the biggests threats to free software's
commercial success and it is disgusting that BCS seem to want to waste
software developers' money in this way.

Does the event have a predicted end time? If I'm going, I need to
book time off project work ASAP.

Regards,
--
MJR/slef
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From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Cc: fsfe-uk(at)gnu(dot)org, debian-legal(at)lists(dot)debian(dot)org, ian(at)davenant(dot)greenend(dot)org(dot)uk, MJ Ray <mjr(at)phonecoop(dot)coop>
Subject: Re: FYI, re `BCS OS Licence'
Date: 2007-07-16 19:21:13
Message-ID: 200707161221.13663.josh@postgresql.org
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Ian,

I would happily put my name on such a statement. If 3 board members "sign"
it, then it is almost as good as having the board endorse it.

--
Josh Berkus
Treasurer
Software in the Public Interest, Inc.
www.spi-inc.org