Re: SPI resolution 2014-03-20.rtb.1 - Chakra as an associated project

From: H W Tovetjärn <totte(at)tott(dot)es>
To: spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Subject: Re: SPI resolution 2014-03-20.rtb.1 - Chakra as an associated project
Date: 2014-04-09 17:40:09
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On Wednesday 09 Apr 2014 16:22:20 Ian Jackson wrote:
> Robert Brockway writes ("Re: SPI resolution 2014-03-20.rtb.1 - Chakra as an
associated project"):
> > 4. H W Tovetjaern is recognised by SPI as the authoritative decision maker
> > and SPI liaison for Chakra.
> (As I have said before) the purpose of this part of the SPI project
> resolution template is to document SPI's understanding of the
> project's governance model.
> Is Chakra's governance model autocracy, then ? I don't think that's
> the case. The webserver is down but refers
> to "The Chakra Team" and
> has a (sadly dead) link to something called the "core development
> team".
> I think we should stop using this phrase "authoritative decision
> maker". It implies that the project is an autocracy, but not everyone
> is aware of that. If the project is an autocracy we should say that.
> But most projects aren't. Self-perpetuating oligarchies are much more
> common.
> How about we use one of the following templates:
> | Foo Project's governance model is currently an autocracy,
> | with Alice Jones in charge and Bob Kramer as deputy.
> |
> | Foo Project's governance model is currently a self-perpetuating
> | oligarchy. At the time of writing the {core team | executive
> | board | committers} are Alice Jones, Bob Kramer, Carol Liszt and
> | Dave Macallan.
> |
> | Foo Project's governance structure and current role-holders are
> | documented on their web page at <URL> and <URL>, and will be
> | honoured by SPI.
> |
> | Foo Project does not currently have an agreed governance
> | structure; in the unlikely and unfortunate event that SPI would
> | have to decide between the wishes of competing factions, SPI would
> | do so based on the merits.
> followed by in each case
> | The initial SPI liason for Foo will be Eve Nieder.
> In this case I would defer to any comments from the Chakra project but
> I think the intent of the "core development team" probably that that
> team is a self-perpetuating oligarchy.
> I also think the drafts of these resolutions should be sent to some
> appropriate list belonging to the project, if there is one. That way
> if the person drafting the resolution has misunderstood the project's
> governance structure (or there is a dispute) it can be straightened
> out.
> Thanks,
> Ian.
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Could "authoritative decision maker" be replaced with "arbiter"? If it doesn't
cause a ruckus, I'd personally favour being viewed as an arbiter rather than a
project leader.

For reference in this specific case, the current listing of contributors can
be found at The URL is subject to change, but
the intent is to provide a handful of "static" pages (i.e. not wiki articles)
that only a select few can edit to maintain a degree of legitimacy to this
kind of information. These pages will be linked to from the "frontpage",, on which you currently find links to the page for
downloading, a page about Chakra itself as well as the previously mentioned
page covering contributors.

As for the "core development team" I'd personally suggest referring to it as
"Chakra developers" or "Chakra contributors". There are those of us with what
could be perceived as "voting rights" but it is very loosely defined and there
are no established procedures for the process to becoming or remaining one. It
is being worked on, but these things take time - and especially since Chakra
has from a historical perspective more or less been owned and led by single

We do have a mailing list for the administrators which is sort of a
"collaborative inbox" to which a select few have access, chakra-
cabal(at)googlegroups(dot)com(dot) Anyone can send e-mail to it and my intent is to have
everything sent to the standard e-mail addresses such as abuse(at)chakraos(dot)org,
webmaster(at)chakraos(dot)org, postmaster(at)chakraos(dot)org, info(at)chakraos(dot)org, etc. (you
get the idea) forwarded to it.

Oh and yes, everything previously found at and chakra- has been set up anew at Unfortunately I can't do
anything about the two lost domains.
Best regards,
H W "totte" Tovetjärn

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