Issue #20: A priori moderation on mailing lists delays message availability (Fwd: Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable)

From: Philippe Cloutier <chealer(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Subject: Issue #20: A priori moderation on mailing lists delays message availability (Fwd: Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable)
Date: 2021-05-08 21:20:20
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Some of SPI's mailing lists (at least spi-general and spi-private)
impose a priori moderation in certain circumstances. A mail sent to "Too
many recipients" can trigger such moderation queues. The forwarded
message is an example of a message which was directed to such a queue.
That message's content shows 4 more messages which presumably suffered
the same fate.

It appears that no matter how one subscribed, these mails will not be
relayed until they have been approved. And unfortunately, unless I am
missing something, there is also no way to access mails in queues via
the web interfaces. Unfortunately, this has an important impact on
communication efficiency, as processing delays visibly exceed 1 month in
certain cases (the forwarded message is still queued as I write these
lines).

While a proper solution should be implemented, increasing the criteria
to trigger a priori moderation and/or adding moderation manpower would
mitigate. I volunteer to help with the latter for spi-general.

-------- Message transféré --------
Sujet : Re: Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable
Date : Fri, 2 Apr 2021 10:39:58 -0400
De : Philippe Cloutier <chealer(at)gmail(dot)com>
Pour : Michael Schultheiss <schultmc(at)spi-inc(dot)org>, Martin Michlmayr
<tbm(at)cyrius(dot)com>, spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org,
sysadmin(at)rt(dot)spi-inc(dot)org, webmaster(at)spi-inc(dot)org
Copie à : spi-private(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org, board(at)spi-inc(dot)org,
schultmc(at)debian(dot)org, sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net, sfrost(at)spi-inc(dot)org

Le 2021-03-29 à 10:01, Michael Schultheiss a écrit :
> Martin Michlmayr wrote:
>> * Philippe Cloutier<chealer(at)gmail(dot)com> [2021-03-27 13:11]:
>>> I am sorry to inform you that the spi-general mailing list has visibly been
>>> unreachable, for at least 40 hours. I personally sent a mail to
>> I noticed the same problem recently and opened a ticket but so
>> received no reply.
>>
>> I'm worried thatboard(at)spi-inc(dot)org doesn't work since it's (IIRC) also
>> a mailing list; copying Stephen and Michael directly.
> This should now be resolved - apologies for the delay in responding due
> to issues with the list software.

Thank you very much Michael. Thanks also to Martin Michlmayr, and to
Robert Brockway for acknowledging reception of my report.

Although it is clear that Michael's actions have helped, I am
unfortunately under the impression that this issue is not fully fixed
yet. From the replies which reached me, I can't explain why the
following still don't show on spi-general's archives:

1. Michael Schultheiss's 2021-03-29 9:52 "Re: [SYSADM #4825] AutoReply:
Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable"
2. Michael Schultheiss's 2021-03-29 9:58 "Re: [SYSADM #4825] AutoReply:
Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable"
3. Michael Schultheiss's 2021-03-29 10:01 "Re: Issue #17: spi-general
mailing list unreachable", to which this mail replies
4. Robert Brockway's 2021-03-31 03:45 "Re: Issue #17: spi-general
mailing list unreachable"

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Philippe Cloutier
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