Re: Mailing list/email forwarding hosting

HI,

Over at the Battle for Wesnoth we've been using Tuxfamily for mailing lists and email forwarding, however they're likely not going to be around for much longer (https://forum.tuxfamily.org/topic/775/is-tuxfamily-slowly-dying/), so we're going to need to migrate somewhere else. Does anyone have any recommendations for email hosting?

Thanks!

Are you just looking for mailing lists and address forwarding (from a
custom domain name)? If so, I would recommend you do your mailing list
hosting with groups.io (free for mailing lists up to 100 people) and I
would recommend you host your domain with ZoneEdit
<https://zoneedit.com> (owned
by EasyDNS, a Canadian company), which hosts DNS for up to 3 domains for
free (you still pay annual domain registration fees) and offers unlimited
email forwarding for addresses in that domain.

I have extensive experience with both these services and, in my experience,
they are robust, well-maintained, and reasonably-to-very customer-focused.
(Groups.io is an open-source project, if you care about that.)
--
Dan – pronouns he/him

On Jan 31, 2025 at 4:21:07 PM, pentarctagon(at)tutamail(dot)com wrote:

> HI,
>
> Over at the Battle for Wesnoth we've been using Tuxfamily for mailing
> lists and email forwarding, however they're likely not going to be around
> for much longer (
> https://forum.tuxfamily.org/topic/775/is-tuxfamily-slowly-dying/), so
> we're going to need to migrate somewhere else. Does anyone have any
> recommendations for email hosting?
>
> Thanks!
>

I have used CloudFlare in the past (free 200 mail forwards, catch all
address, but no mailboxes or mailing lists). A big corp which already
routes a third of the global internet traffic, and is always eager to
expand their sphere of influence, but which from my experience is not very
aggressive like eg. Google and Microsoft which never miss a chance of
advertising something.

Currently though, TMW is or was using Office 365. It has free mailboxes,
but is harder to setup (...it's Microsoft after all...) and AFAIK has no
email forwarding, in order to maximize vendor lock-in under name of
"security" probably. But that didn't matter as TMW mostly uses it for SMTP
(sending emails), so it's sufficient that only one person sometimes checks
the mailboxes.

Not sure what other projects use. SPI uses Google Suite if memory serves me
right, Celestin would know more. I think FreedroidRPG uses Gandi when they
provided free mailboxes and forwards, but I am not sure if Gandi still does
that.

There also used to exist Yandex and Zoho... no idea what happened to them.

Att.

Jonatas L. Nogueira (“Jesusalva”)
Former The Mana World Admin
Moubootaur Legends Developer

On Sat, Feb 1, 2025, 14:01 Daniel Brotsky <dan(at)brotsky(dot)com> wrote:

> Are you just looking for mailing lists and address forwarding (from a
> custom domain name)? If so, I would recommend you do your mailing list
> hosting with groups.io (free for mailing lists up to 100 people) and I
> would recommend you host your domain with ZoneEdit <https://zoneedit.com> (owned
> by EasyDNS, a Canadian company), which hosts DNS for up to 3 domains for
> free (you still pay annual domain registration fees) and offers unlimited
> email forwarding for addresses in that domain.
>
> I have extensive experience with both these services and, in my
> experience, they are robust, well-maintained, and reasonably-to-very
> customer-focused. (Groups.io is an open-source project, if you care about
> that.)
> --
> Dan – pronouns he/him
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2025 at 4:21:07 PM, pentarctagon(at)tutamail(dot)com wrote:
>
>> HI,
>>
>> Over at the Battle for Wesnoth we've been using Tuxfamily for mailing
>> lists and email forwarding, however they're likely not going to be around
>> for much longer (
>> https://forum.tuxfamily.org/topic/775/is-tuxfamily-slowly-dying/), so
>> we're going to need to migrate somewhere else. Does anyone have any
>> recommendations for email hosting?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

> Not sure what other projects use. SPI uses Google Suite if memory serves me right, Celestin would know more. I think FreedroidRPG uses Gandi when they provided free mailboxes and forwards, but I am not sure if Gandi still does that.

SPI relies on Google's SMTP servers to emit emails, and on an internal deployment of PGLister and PGArchives for mailing lists.

PGLister: https://gitlab.com/pglister/pglister
PGLister with my patches (necessary for new deployment) + documentation: https://gitlab.com/cmatte/pglister
PGArchives: https://github.com/postgres/pgarchives
PGArchives with my patches (various additions, e.g. making search work): https://gitlab.com/cmatte/pgarchives/
Ansible deployment script: https://gitlab.com/cmatte/ansible-pglister

--
Célestin Matte

> Are you just looking for mailing lists and address forwarding (from a custom domain name)? If so, I would recommend you do your mailing list hosting with groups.io <http://groups.io> (free for mailing lists up to 100 people)

Yes, that's exactly what we're looking for. How does groups.io do email forwarding? A group is essentially a mailing list, but for email forwarding it looks like it'd still be a group just with the Visibility privacy setting set to "Group not listed in directory, messages private"?

Feb 2, 2025, 05:01 by cmatte(at)spi-inc(dot)org:

>> Not sure what other projects use. SPI uses Google Suite if memory serves me right, Celestin would know more. I think FreedroidRPG uses Gandi when they provided free mailboxes and forwards, but I am not sure if Gandi still does that.
>>
>
> SPI relies on Google's SMTP servers to emit emails, and on an internal deployment of PGLister and PGArchives for mailing lists.
>
> PGLister: https://gitlab.com/pglister/pglister
> PGLister with my patches (necessary for new deployment) + documentation: https://gitlab.com/cmatte/pglister
> PGArchives: https://github.com/postgres/pgarchives
> PGArchives with my patches (various additions, e.g. making search work): https://gitlab.com/cmatte/pgarchives/
> Ansible deployment script: https://gitlab.com/cmatte/ansible-pglister
>
> --
> Célestin Matte
>
>

I’ve never used groups.io for 1-1 email forwarding. I suppose you could
use it that way, but it seems like overkill. I just use a free service
provided by my DNS hosting company for email forwarding; in my experience
most provide this in one form or another.

Hope this helps. -d.
--
Dan – pronouns he/him

On Feb 7, 2025 at 9:37:54 AM, pentarctagon(at)tutamail(dot)com wrote:

> > Are you just looking for mailing lists and address forwarding (from a
> custom domain name)? If so, I would recommend you do your mailing list
> hosting with groups.io (free for mailing lists up to 100 people)
>
> Yes, that's exactly what we're looking for. How does groups.io do email
> forwarding? A group is essentially a mailing list, but for email forwarding
> it looks like it'd still be a group just with the Visibility privacy
> setting set to "Group not listed in directory, messages private"?
>
>
> Feb 2, 2025, 05:01 by cmatte(at)spi-inc(dot)org:
>
> Not sure what other projects use. SPI uses Google Suite if memory serves
> me right, Celestin would know more. I think FreedroidRPG uses Gandi when
> they provided free mailboxes and forwards, but I am not sure if Gandi still
> does that.
>
>
> SPI relies on Google's SMTP servers to emit emails, and on an internal
> deployment of PGLister and PGArchives for mailing lists.
>
> PGLister: https://gitlab.com/pglister/pglister
> PGLister with my patches (necessary for new deployment) + documentation:
> https://gitlab.com/cmatte/pglister
> PGArchives: https://github.com/postgres/pgarchives
> PGArchives with my patches (various additions, e.g. making search work):
> https://gitlab.com/cmatte/pgarchives/
> Ansible deployment script: https://gitlab.com/cmatte/ansible-pglister
>
> --
> Célestin Matte
>
>
>