Re: Draft resolution formalising Debian's Associated Project status

From: MJ Ray <mjr(at)phonecoop(dot)coop>
To: spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Subject: Re: Draft resolution formalising Debian's Associated Project status
Date: 2007-03-06 00:01:00
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Josh Berkus <josh(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:
> The issue we're having with Debian is the requests by a couple of prominent
> (or at least vocal) Debian community members that we monitor, and react to,
> actions on debian-vote, as well as dealing with claims by Debian community
> members that the DPL was not authorized for some action and therefore the SPI
> board shouldn't listen to him.

The issue we're having between SPI and the Debian project is the claim
by a couple of SPI board members that SPI only recognises DPL
decisions and not any of the other project decision-makers. As far as
I can tell, there isn't anything on record disagreeing with that
goalpost-move, although there's nothing much to support it either.
(Confusing statements by the current DPL about his authoritativity
don't help, although he's also promised to relate faithfully any
non-DPL decisions, so that isn't critical ATM.)

Who is demanding that SPI monitors and/or reacts to debian-vote
directly? Personally, I don't care whether SPI monitors debian
directly (if there's a problem, SPI will probably hear about it, as
many DDs are SPI members). I do care whether SPI refuses to recognise
valid decisions just because they aren't DPL-supported.

SPI pledges to obey all OFTC decisions. Please do the same for the
debian project.

Now, those questions:

> (1) Does SPI listen only to the DPL, or to other Debian officers as well?
> Under what circumstances?

To DPL about funding authorisations and new delegates, Auditor about
information and Secretary about any other project decisions.

> (2) How does SPI determine that an officer has been replaced?

AIUI, it depends on how they're replaced: the DPL (delegations) or
Secretary (GR outcomes) would notify SPI as appropriate. This already
happens for the DPL election, doesn't it?

> (3) If a recall vote is underway, should SPI pay any attention to it? If so,
> in what way?

No.

> (4) If there is a dispute/disagreement on SPI lists between the DPL and other
> Debian members/officers, how should the SPI board regard it?

With sorrow and caution? Not sure what this is asking.

Hope that helps,
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